Absolutely not
i’ve never heard of that in my denomination.
i could be wrong, but i’m starting to get the idea that maybe one extreme church used it once upon a time, someone got out and told it to the media, who ate it up and have now been pushing the false narrative that all christian denominations practice conversion therapy
“Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?” – 1st Corinthians 1:13
let me just cut in here for a moment:
Mark 7 doesn’t say that He “made all foods clean”, that is an intentional mistranslation on the part of the NIV. it is talking about bowel movements and how the remnants of food are purged from the digestive system (at least in language that was understood by Hebrews with 1st century medicinal knowledge).
Acts 10 does not say that “God has made clean” the unclean animals. it was particularly about the beginning of the ministry to the Gentiles (and i feel that i should go into greater detail about this misconception about laws and what applies to whom).
Jeshua was born in Israel. He lived perfectly according to the Law which He gave to Moses, as our divine example of obedience to God. the Gospels are scarce on what He ate, except in several passages. as we know, His death happened about Passover time, and according to Jewish tradition, the Passover was held for seven days (not just one): the Last Supper was a Paschal feast, and therefore had lamb and bitter herbs as well as bread and wine. also Luke 24 tells that, when He first appeared in the Upper Room, He ate a sparse meal of broiled fish and honeycomb: considering the culture and time, this would have been clean fish.
in short, if God says something, it’s a good idea to consider it prayerfully and not dismiss it off-hand because it doesn’t suit with our tastes
Mark 7 is often taken out of context. Jesus is rebuking the pharisees for following their own traditions as if they were God’s commandments. In this specific instance they were scoffing at His disciples for eating with unclean hands. To which Jesus eventually said “whatever goes into a man from the outside cannot defile him because it does not go into his heart, but into his stomach where it is eliminated.” Thats the part people generally refference. In this particular instance it would appear to be a rebuke to the traditional man-made doctrine that eating with unlcean hands would make a man unclean in the eyes of God.
Acts 10 however is specifically referring God cleansing meat. “What God has made clean cannot make you unholy” is the closest translation that I have found.
Though this was in a dream or vision. I have not studied Acts in over a decade so my knowlege on the context is vague at best.
last time i was at my church, the NIV version of Mark 7 was quoted during Scripture. here is what was on the screen for verse 19:
For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
The parenthetical part is not found in any older translation (such as the Geneva Bible, Wycliffe’s English translation of the Vulgate, or the oft-maligned King James Version). Here is what the older versions say (I’m using KJV):
Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
Those who read Early Modern English will tell you that in the KJV, “meat” is used interchangeably for food (for instance, Genesis uses “meat” when God gives Adam and Eve the fruit of the trees of the Garden of Eden to eat, which happened almost one thousand years before He gave Noah and his family permission to eat the meat of animals).
In this context, Mark 7:19 is talking about bowel movements and not making any food clean (nobody would want to eat the food that is purged from the bowels, nor would anyone call that “clean” or even “fit” to eat).
As for Acts 10, this is a vision and it has nothing to do with food whatsoever. Peter later relates this dream to Cornelius and his household and spells it out quite plainly in verse 28:
Not a sin actually.
Allow me to explain those laws!Moral laws are laws that represents Gods own moral character, like the Ten Commandments. They still apply today (these are the immoral: pedophilia, beastiality, incest, homosexuality, premarital sex, masturbation)
Civil laws regulate the nation of Israel, these laws are only meant for the Israelites (mixed fabrics, eating unclean foods, haircuts, etc)
Ceremonial law is to make atonement for sin (Passover)
And he said unto them,
Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep
company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me
that I should not call any man common or unclean. (emphasis mine)
As you can plainly see, food is not the object of discussion, but man (as in, humankind).
i regularly quote from 2nd Timothy 3:16, as well as 1st Corinthians 15. i’ll let you guess what my answer is
who is Paul’s audience in this letter? the believers in Rome. who were the believers in Rome? well, as we saw in Acts, some of them were Jews, but a majority were Romans/Greeks/Latins/whoever made up the populace of 1st century Rome. they carried with them customs that, to the Jewish believers, would have been out of place and blasphemous. Paul is addressing the issue of diet not as a way of abolishing any old rule (whether about food or the Sabbath – which Jeshua stated many times that He is LORD of as well), but as playing mediator in an issue that was gripping the church as it mingled people of Hellenic and Jewish backgrounds (a similar issue is described in 1st Corinthians 8). nonetheless, whom are we asked to be like: Paul or Jeshua?
Not a sin actually.
Allow me to explain those laws!Moral laws are laws that represents Gods own moral character, like the Ten Commandments. They still apply today (these are the immoral: pedophilia, beastiality, incest, homosexuality, premarital sex, masturbation)
Civil laws regulate the nation of Israel, these laws are only meant for the Israelites (mixed fabrics, eating unclean foods, haircuts, etc)
Ceremonial law is to make atonement for sin (Passover)
let me just cut in here for a moment:
Mark 7 doesn’t say that He “made all foods clean”, that is an intentional mistranslation on the part of the NIV. it is talking about bowel movements and how the remnants of food are purged from the digestive system (at least in language that was understood by Hebrews with 1st century medicinal knowledge).
Acts 10 does not say that “God has made clean” the unclean animals. it was particularly about the beginning of the ministry to the Gentiles (and i feel that i should go into greater detail about this misconception about laws and what applies to whom).
Jeshua was born in Israel. He lived perfectly according to the Law which He gave to Moses, as our divine example of obedience to God. the Gospels are scarce on what He ate, except in several passages. as we know, His death happened about Passover time, and according to Jewish tradition, the Passover was held for seven days (not just one): the Last Supper was a Paschal feast, and therefore had lamb and bitter herbs as well as bread and wine. also Luke 24 tells that, when He first appeared in the Upper Room, He ate a sparse meal of broiled fish and honeycomb: considering the culture and time, this would have been clean fish.
in short, if God says something, it’s a good idea to consider it prayerfully and not dismiss it off-hand because it doesn’t suit with our tastes
“God is breaking you for a reason. Be still.”
— late night thoughts
(via everlastingjesus)
He’s already broken me many times over and over again. i want to be whole and healed for once!
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